February 17, 2003
The UN's Abyssinia?

I don't want to get into a discussion about whether or not we should invade Iraq. For the record, I don't think we should act without explicit UN backing, but those who think otherwise have valid points of view.

Steve is right too, though - the US and UK don't look like they are even trying to win hearts and minds.

The angle which I haven't seen explored is the medium to long term effect on the UN. It seems to me that we might be looking at the beginning of the end.

If the French veto military action, the US will go it pretty much alone if they have to. (They'll probably have British support, though Blair might, just might, take notice of the pretty much overwhelming public opposition.) This will leave the UN looking pretty irrelevant. League of Nations, anybody?

Of course, one has to wonder whether it's appropriate for France and Britain to have a UN veto. Russia, China, and the US, the superpowers, I can see - the UN would be meaningless without their support, so it's necessary to ensure that it never adversely affects their interests. But Britain and France's positions on the Permanent Security Council is a historical anomaly, reflecting those nation's pre WWII power.

Posted to The Big Room by Simon Brunning at February 17, 2003 01:54 PM

Well, the permanent members of the security council probably got in there in the first place because they were the only countries to have their own nuclear weapons, but then everyone seems to have them these days...

Posted by: Paul Boddie on February 17, 2003 04:50 PM

Too bad. You're in the discussion, now. More if you follow my link. :)

Posted by: Garth T Kidd on February 19, 2003 02:02 AM

OK, OK, I'm in. ;-)
Do I think that we should take military action against Iraq?

Well, possibly. I think that the UN (that's UN mind, not US) has the right to do this, and might need to if Iraq doesn't cooperate.

But what's the damn hurry? Why is there such a rush to sort this out all of a sudden? Things are moving in the right direction, albeit slowly, so lets keep up the pressure, and see where we get. The Northern Irish peace process shows that even the slowest progress can be beneficial, so long as it's (mostly) in the right direction.

But I'm still in two minds, to some extent. See http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,897695,00.html for the opposing view, well put.

Posted by: Simon on February 19, 2003 11:17 AM

000617.. Retweeted it :)

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000617.. Ho-o-o-o-t :)

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